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The New BMW M5 is Much Heavier But Massively Powerful

The BMW M5 has a long and storied history as one of the best sports sedans on the market, but the car we have today is nothing like the one seen in earlier model years. BMW is gearing up for the release of an all-new M5 in 2025, and the car will arrive with a plug-in hybrid powertrain for the first time. Oh, and it’s also 1,000 pounds heavier than the last iteration.

Chris Teague Jun 27, 2024

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Theflyersfan Mixed feelings on this one. It used to be where the base engine was an underpowered boat anchor bolted into a model that typically just had one letter after the car's name. Think of the ungodly underpowered, especially with people and cargo inside, 4-cyls that Ford shart out with the Taurus back in the 80s as an example, or the Iron Duke that GM would have ridden into the grave if they could. Basically these were rental specials and low price crapmobiles for newspaper ads. Get the buyers in, and then upsell them. It's different now, except for the example above with the 2.0L turbo-4 in that Jaguar. Given how wonderful that V8 is, what Jag did there with the 4 is a felony. Base engines now make so much more power, some use less gas (but looking at you Ecoboost), and can be just as smooth as the larger engine. But with these base engines tend to come with a lot less equipment, so by the time you option the car up to what you desire, you're right smack in the range of the bigger and better engine that likely came with that equipment standard, so for resale value and clout, you'd go with the bigger engine. Audi does that as I recall. So I think it depends on the vehicle if it hurts or not. For pickup trucks that might actually do some work beyond shuttling kids to school and hauling air, nope. Toss that base engine. Same with a 5,000 pound CUV. Small base engines are going to be overworked and as Volvo found out early on with the twin-powered I-4, burn out. For something like a Supra, the 2.0L was a gateway in, with decent performance, but odds are the buyer of a Supra has the funds to step into the I-6 model anyway. For one of the last remaining sedans and coupes, it will hurt. A perfectly good 2.0L-4 is just as good as a medium sized V6 these days, and the cost of entry is likely less. Think of the Civic and Mazda3. Normal vs. Turbo. They chuck the non-turbo, they will lose a ton of sales because the price gulf is pretty wide there.
Schurkey Tesla as a company is corrupt. They've invented new ways to screw the original owners, AND the poor sots who buy them as "used" vehicles.The business needs to be prosecuted by the FTC.
3-On-The-Tree Toyota should have kept the 5.7 Iforce V8 instead of the Twin Turbo V6.
Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Depends on the vehicle. Did the base engine in question inhibit or enhance the model?
ToolGuy Cars aren't very good. Cheap cars are worse.

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