Largest Labor Group Says Autonomous Trucks Need Drivers

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

The Transportation Trades Department for the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO) is spending its Tuesday telling the U.S. House of Representatives Energy and Commerce subcommittee that autonomous vehicles. Though it’s not because they occasionally run amok when left to their own devices. This is a matter of jobs.

Labor leaders have become increasingly concerned by the massive layoffs that will likely accompany the proliferation of electric vehicles, which require fewer components to assemble. But AVs have played second fiddle until fairly recently, with truckers doing most of the heavy lifting themselves. Now, the ALF-CIO is getting in on the action and hoping to convince legislators to establish formal requirements for there to be a driver behind in the wheel of all commercial vehicles over 10,000 pounds.

However, considering the recent failure of the driverless Waymo van that was befuddled by traffic cones and ultimately tried to make a break for it when help arrived, it might be worth considering applying similar rules to all AVs. The Alphabet-owned (Google) firm has already started applying for permits to charge customers for rides in its self-driving vehicles, though the company ironically opted to stop using the term “self-driving” at the start of 2021.

Reuters has reported that this is also something that’s currently on the AFL-CIO’s radar. But it’s focusing on larger vehicles likely devoted to long-haul transportation and heavier loads.

“We do not allow passenger airplanes to operate without pilots or passenger rail to run without engineers, and we should use a similar approach with AVs that operate on our often-congested roadways and in complex transit networks,” reads prepared testimony of Greg Regan, president of the Transportation Trades Department for the AFL-CIO.

From Reuters:

Concerns raised by major unions, including the Teamsters, are one reason that legislation to grant U.S. regulators the power to exempt tens of thousands of self-driving cars from U.S. safety regulations has not been approved despite five years of efforts.

“We have seen the impacts of automation on other sectors — manufacturing, health care, and retail, to name a few — and the consequences when public policy fails to protect the workers and users it impacts,” Regan will tell lawmakers, also raising concerns about “alternative design vehicles such as delivery bots. Any vehicle that is under the 10,000-pound threshold that will travel on public roads must be properly regulated.”

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Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • ToolGuy ToolGuy on May 18, 2021

    A really good semi truck driver is impressive to see on road trips (well-maintained equipment, impeccable lane discipline, always planning ahead, courteous despite the many idiots driving smaller vehicles).

  • DC Bruce DC Bruce on May 19, 2021

    It's always sad to see this. I'm old enough to remember the big hoo-hah when railroad unions fought to preserve the jobs of firemen on diesel locomotives (where they weren't needed). "Preserving jobs" that have become redundant or unnecessary is a dead-end, for everyone. (I'm not talking about preserving domestic jobs that have been sent overseas by companies engaging in labor arbitrage.). Better to figure out how to give these folks an "off-ramp" that minimizes the adverse effect on their families and, in the case of fixed-location jobs, communities. That said, I think the entire "autonomous driving" thing is a total crock. Thus far, autonomous vehicles have proved a danger to everyone in the vicinity. Even worse, there seems to be no particular understanding as to why these systems fail. The closest thing we have to autonomous driving today is passenger airliners where, for fuel efficiency reasons, the autopilot flies the plane almost the whole time. Even that has its downside as a number of crashes have been attributed to the pilots' degradation of "piloting skills" from having been essentially a passenger for so much of their time in flight.

    • Jack Denver Jack Denver on May 19, 2021

      Autonomous vehicles don't have to be perfectly safe - they just have to be safer than human drivers. People find it hard to accept if an AV kills even one person but human drivers in the US alone kill 40,000 people every year, almost as much as US combat deaths from the entire Vietnam War, each and every year. So if autonomous vehicles were only half as bad as humans, 20,000 lives would be saved every year. Now for over the road trucks, they would have to meet a higher standard since professional truckers are better than average drivers, but still a some point (which is greater than zero accidents) self driving trucks would be better than human trucks. Self driving also potentially offers a better lifestyle for drivers. At first at least, the self driving trucks would drive from interstate on-ramp to off-ramp and there would still be human drivers at either end. Such locally based drivers could go home every night.

  • Wjtinfwb No confusion on my end, Ghost. The Government has zero role in job creation outside of the legitimate opportunities' created by Government going about it's responsibilities, namely keeping the American people and territory safe from foreign intrusion. Of course, they're failing epically at that but that's a different topic. The American free enterprise system is what enables job creation. Government's role is to stay out of the way of that system, but they seem incapable of doing so. Oil & Gas exploration is just one example. If a National Job Policy is what you're looking for, there are other countries that will be happy to accept your application for residency.
  • Michael Smith I drive 100-300 miles a day in new BMWs, Mercedes-Benzes, and GM SUVs. Some are already equipped with automatic braking.It's the first thing I turn off when I start the car.I've had experiences where (as the author notes) the system gave false alarms and stabbed the brake pedal, threatening my ability to control the car.Further, every driver encounters situations where, for example, legal following distance must be momentarily compromised in order to avoid a difficult situation. When the system intervenes, it disrupts the driver's plan of action. This can lead to a collision as the driver has to suddenly react not to his surroundings, but to the system.Not only is automatic braking an insult to skilled drivers, it's dangerous to everyone.
  • Dave M. My hipster daughter is greatly into it. We watched the race together this weekend. It was interesting but I'm not devoted to it like she is. She'll be at the Austin race in October.
  • Bd2 I'll watch F1 when Kia and/or Hyundai pony (pun intended) up the cash to field a class leading team. Hyundai is leading many series with the Elantra N with it's incredible 350HP Smartstream-R engine.
  • Steve Biro There are 24 races on this year’s F1 schedule. And I guarantee you no more than two will be reasonably exciting, Meanwhile, F1’s reception for Andretti reveals the dark underbelly of the sport. I have followed F1 since the 1960s and, frankly, I am running out of interest. I’ll catch a race if it’s convenient but won’t bother DVRing them.
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