Honda Declares the Midsize Car Alive As It Prepares to Launch Next Accord

Tim Healey
by Tim Healey

One reason why this post was published Wednesday instead of earlier in the week is that I was at a Chicago-area event where Honda PR was presenting the all-new Accord to local media.

This particular presentation was unusual in that Honda focused less on the new car’s specs and features and more on a major question that’s hovering over the midsize-sedan class – namely, will the segment even exist in a few years? Or will crossovers (CUVs) have fully taken over by then?

It’s an important question for Honda (and any automaker, really), and it’s obvious that reporters are asking why Honda would spend resources on redesigning a midsize sedan when the crossover market is so damn hot.

Honda, of course, pushed back by reminding assembled media that we’re talking Accord here, and it’s one of the best-selling cars of all-time, one of the most well-known nameplates, a bread-and-butter car for the brand, one of the most heavily awarded cars of all time, et cetera. So why wouldn’t the brand stay with a car that does such volume, even if the rest of the segment is seeing a decline?

The company has a point – it never occurred to me that Honda would give up on Accord (or Toyota give up on Camry) despite the shift in market trends. Those two models are just too damn popular.

It was a different point of pushback that caught my ear. The company spokesman giving the presentation politely suggested that journalists are buying into the midsize deathwatch narrative a little too easily, because it’s easy to see a near 20-percent decline and say, “Well that’s it, the trend will continue and the segment will die.” Never mind that the trend could stop or even reverse in future years.

What’s interesting is looking at what cars have left the midsize segment in the past couple of years – or are about to. It’s a small number. Mitsubishi no longer has an offering there because the company is barely alive in the North American market. Volkswagen is planning the CC’s death, but a replacement is on the way. And while focusing on trucks and SUVs was part of the reasoning behind FCA’s choice to kill the Chrysler 200 and Dodge Avenger, it’s only one reason why those two cars are dead and soon to be dead.

Those two models were killed in part because they failed to compete at a high enough level to justify investment, and FCA felt it better to focus in the short term on building models that sell. The company’s struggles dictated this – FCA simply had to concentrate its efforts on its best-sellers in ways other OEMs haven’t had to. The 200 also lacked rear headroom – a fatal flaw in this class – and it’s possible Sergio Marchionne wanted to pare the lineup down in order to merge with another automaker.

Automakers aren’t yet fleeing the midsize segment, then. Both the Camry and Accord are fully redesigned for this year and Nissan’s Altima is expected to follow suit in short order. Other vehicles in the segment have been recently refreshed.

Yet just about every journalist, pundit and analyst has predicted the death of the midsize sedan (we haven’t, exactly. As we state in our Midsize Sedan Deathwatch pieces: “The midsize sedan as we know it — “midsizedus sedanicus” in the original Latin — isn’t going anywhere any time soon, but the ongoing sales contraction will result in a reduction of mainstream intermediate sedans in the U.S. market. How do we know? It already has.”)

However, I think it’s important to note that “decline” does not equal “death.”

What I mean by that is while the segment is likely to see fewer sales unless consumer tastes shift back (keep an eye on gas prices, and yes, I know crossovers are much more fuel-efficient than before), and while a model or two may disappear, the segment isn’t likely to.

What’s more likely, in my view, is that midsize segment will simply no longer be the dominant class.

It’s human nature to overreact to trends. Think about the aging athlete who has a bad year and is assumed to be too old to be any good anymore. Sometimes, that’s the case, but sometimes it’s just an off year and her or she bounces right back the next season. Other times he or she is no longer dominant but still can perform at a high level. Either way, a decline doesn’t always signify the end.

That’s what I think will happen to the midsize segment. The rumors of its death have been exaggerated.

Still, there is concern outside of what we called the “big three” – Accord, Camry and Nissan Altima. As Tim noted before, the non-big-three midsizers are suffering.

While I won’t be saying prayers for the Malibu or Fusion anytime soon, that news could be worrisome for Subaru Legacy and Mazda6 fans. The good news is that the Legacy was just refreshed, and since it shares architecture with the Outback, it’s likely safe for now.

As for the 6, Mazda already told us they had no intent, for now, of killing it. But as Tim noted in that piece, it’s not just about sales numbers but about profit. On the other hand, the 6’s driving dynamics live up to Mazda’s chosen “zoom zoom” identity, and the company could keep the 6 around just for that reason, even if the profit equation isn’t so favorable.

It’s clear that for Honda, Toyota and Nissan, everything is still relatively rosy in the midsize segment. But with 35 percent fewer nameplates in the class than there were a decade ago, and with almost 20 percent of CUV conquests coming from the midsize class, things do look a little dire.

Dire doesn’t mean dead, though. The midsize segment isn’t going anywhere, nor is the Accord. Adjust expectations accordingly, but don’t start the funeral dirge just yet.

[Image: Honda]

Tim Healey
Tim Healey

Tim Healey grew up around the auto-parts business and has always had a love for cars — his parents joke his first word was “‘Vette”. Despite this, he wanted to pursue a career in sports writing but he ended up falling semi-accidentally into the automotive-journalism industry, first at Consumer Guide Automotive and later at Web2Carz.com. He also worked as an industry analyst at Mintel Group and freelanced for About.com, CarFax, Vehix.com, High Gear Media, Torque News, FutureCar.com, Cars.com, among others, and of course Vertical Scope sites such as AutoGuide.com, Off-Road.com, and HybridCars.com. He’s an urbanite and as such, doesn’t need a daily driver, but if he had one, it would be compact, sporty, and have a manual transmission.

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  • Akear Akear on Aug 13, 2017

    The trend towards SUVs is not the only thing that has caused decline in Detroit sedan sales. One of the main reason for this decline is the superiority of the Camry, Accord, and Altima. These cars are selling at a pace that GM would die for even ten years ago. The Camry alone outsells both Buick and Cadillac combined. This is why these powerful Japanese companies can survive virtually any downturn in the economy. In the next economic downturn both GM and FCA are in deep trouble. I don't think Chrysler will survive. In hindsight I believe cancelling both the 200 and Dart were a terrible decision made by Chrysler. Lets hope Telsa can pull up the slack when GM and FCA go bust. Imagine the source of pride there would be if an American manufacturer designed and engineered the Accord.

    • Sgeffe Sgeffe on Aug 13, 2017

      If that could have been, it'd be called "Oldsmobile Cutlass!" We know that reality doesn't match a best hope, sometimes!

  • Lorenzo Lorenzo on Aug 13, 2017

    Why does the edit function disappear so fast now? There's not enough time to go to the bathroom!

  • Bd2 Lexus is just a higher trim package Toyota. ^^
  • Tassos ONLY consider CIvics or Corollas, in their segment. NO DAMNED Hyundais, Kias, Nissans or esp Mitsus. Not even a Pretend-BMW Mazda. They may look cute but they SUCK.I always recommend Corollas to friends of mine who are not auto enthusiasts, even tho I never owed one, and owned a Civic Hatch 5 speed 1992 for 25 years. MANY follow my advice and are VERY happy. ALmost all are women.friends who believe they are auto enthusiasts would not listen to me anyway, and would never buy a Toyota. They are damned fools, on both counts.
  • Tassos since Oct 2016 I drive a 2007 E320 Bluetec and since April 2017 also a 2008 E320 Bluetec.Now I am in my summer palace deep in the Eurozone until end October and drive the 2008.Changing the considerable oils (10 quarts synthetic) twice cost me 80 and 70 euros. Same changes in the US on the 2007 cost me $219 at the dealers and $120 at Firestone.Changing the air filter cost 30 Euros, with labor, and there are two such filters (engine and cabin), and changing the fuel filter only 50 euros, while in the US they asked for... $400. You can safely bet I declined and told them what to do with their gold-plated filter. And when I changed it in Europe, I looked at the old one and it was clean as a whistle.A set of Continentals tires, installed etc, 300 EurosI can't remember anything else for the 2008. For the 2007, a brand new set of manual rec'd tires at Discount Tire with free rotations for life used up the $500 allowance the dealer gave me when I bought it (tires only had 5000 miles left on them then)So, as you can see, I spent less than even if I owned a Lexus instead, and probably less than all these poor devils here that brag about their alleged low cost Datsun-Mitsus and Hyundai-Kias.And that's THETRUTHABOUTCARS. My Cars,
  • NJRide These are the Q1 Luxury division salesAudi 44,226Acura 30,373BMW 84,475Genesis 14,777Mercedes 66,000Lexus 78,471Infiniti 13,904Volvo 30,000*Tesla (maybe not luxury but relevant): 125,000?Lincoln 24,894Cadillac 35,451So Cadillac is now stuck as a second-tier player with names like Volvo. Even German 3rd wheel Audi is outselling them. Where to gain sales?Surprisingly a decline of Tesla could boost Cadillac EVs. Tesla sort of is now in the old Buick-Mercury upper middle of the market. If lets say the market stays the same, but another 15-20% leave Tesla I could see some going for a Caddy EV or hybrid, but is the division ready to meet them?In terms of the mainstream luxury brands, Lexus is probably a better benchmark than BMW. Lexus is basically doing a modern interpretation of what Cadillac/upscale Olds/Buick used to completely dominate. But Lexus' only downfall is the lack of emotion, something Cadillac at least used to be good at. The Escalade still has far more styling and brand ID than most of Lexus. So match Lexus' quality but out-do them on comfort and styling. Yes a lot of Lexus buyers may be Toyota or import loyal but there are a lot who are former GM buyers who would "come home" for a better product.In fact, that by and large is the Big 3's problem. In the 80s and 90s they would try to win back "import intenders" and this at least slowed the market share erosion. I feel like around 2000 they gave this up and resorted to a ton of gimmicks before the bankruptcies. So they have dropped from 66% to 37% of the market in a quarter century. Sure they have scaled down their presence and for the last 14 years preserved profit. But in the largest, most prosperous market in the world they are not leading. I mean who would think the Koreans could take almost 10% of the market? But they did because they built and structured products people wanted. (I also think the excess reliance on overseas assembly by the Big 3 hurts them vs more import brands building in US). But the domestics should really be at 60% of their home market and the fact that they are not speaks volumes. Cadillac should not be losing 2-1 to Lexus and BMW.
  • Tassos Not my favorite Eldorados. Too much cowbell (fins), the gauges look poor for such an expensive car, the interior has too many shiny bits but does not scream "flagship luxury", and the white on red leather or whatever is rather loud for this car, while it might work in a Corvette. But do not despair, a couple more years and the exterior designs (at least) will sober up, the cowbells will be more discreet and the long, low and wide 60s designs are not far away. If only the interiors would be fit for the price point, and especially a few acres of real wood that also looked real.
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