What If People Talked About Gas Cars the Way They Discuss EVs?

Jo Borras
by Jo Borras

I call it the father-in-law test, and it goes like this: If my father-in-law is talking about it, it’s mainstream. It’s a pretty basic test for any given pop culture or technological idea out there, I know, but it works pretty well. My FIL is in his seventies, so he’s definitely a “Boomer”. He’s a bit of an intellectual, too, having served as the dean of a prestigious Catholic school here in Chicago for many years. He is also absolutely, completely, and intentionally not into cars … and, just the other day, he asked me what it would take to put in a DC fast charger in his home.

Keep in mind, this man does not own an EV. He’s not even planning on buying an EV. He’s looking at putting an EV charger in for the potential resale value it would add to the home. (!)

That settles it, then. Electric cars aren’t a niche. They’re just “cars” now. And, I have to admit, it does seem like the conversations I have about cars with “civilians” these days revolve in some way around electric cars. There’s plenty of reasons for that, I suppose – EVs are in the news, the new Ford F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E are genuine contenders aimed at the heart of America’s love affair with pickup trucks and muscle cars, and I’m probably like a lot of enthusiasts in the sense that the non-car people in my circle will usually ask me about a car they’re considering buying every few years.

All of that makes sense. What doesn’t make sense, though, are the baffling questions people seem to ask about EVs. Bizarre questions, really, that they’d never ask of the internal combustion cars that have always just sort of “ been there” as long as they’ve been paying attention. I mean, what if we asked some of the same questions about gasoline-powered cars that people ask about EVs? Would that kind of pointless thought experiment be even remotely entertaining or thought-provoking?

Let’s find out!

Q: How far can I drive before I have to “fill up” again?

A: In most cases, you’ll be able to go about 250-300 miles before you’ll need to “fill up” again, and that only takes a few minutes, unless there’s a long line at the pump. There are a few cars out there with larger tanks or more efficient motors that can go further, but after five or six hours at highway speeds, most drivers will want to take a break.

Q: How will I be able to find these “fill up” stations?

A: There are plenty of apps out there that will lead you to the nearest filling station, but the reality is that you’ll probably end up going to the same station the majority of the time. You probably already know where you can get fuel in your neighborhood, though, so what you’re really asking is where you’ll be able to buy fuel on the road. In addition to the apps, you’ll be able to see 100’ tall signs for filling stations from quite a ways off, and will probably only start paying attention to those when you’re down to about 25 percent of your driving range.

Q: Are gasoline cars really clean?

A: Compared to horses? Absolutely! Horse-drawn carriages used to leave literal tons of horseshit right in the middle of the street, which – in addition to the stink – spread mess and disease to almost anyone in a given neighborhood. Heavily populated urban areas were the most impacted by the pollution caused by the horses’ “emissions”, and the ability to remove this sort of miasma from urban centers will make a tremendous positive impact on the most vulnerable urban populations.

Q: How long do gasoline cars last?

A: That’s a tough one to answer. If you do your maintenance, keep it clean, and replace parts when they need replacing, you can drive the same gasoline car for years. Take the late Irv Gordon, for example, who put three million miles on his Volvo P1800 over the course of five decades – and, sure, there’s a bit of a Ship of Theseus thing going on here, but you should have no problem getting 100,000 miles out of your gasoline car with “just the basics”, and most people don’t even want to keep their new cars that long!

Q: What about recycling? Can you recycle a gasoline car?

A: Yes! Gas-powered cars are already made from a number of recycled materials and have used sustainable plant-based fibers since the days of Henry Ford, and there are a number of businesses called “salvage yards” where old cars can get parked and picked over for their good, used parts to keep more cars on the road, longer, reducing the need for raw material mining in the future. Eventually, the big parts of those “salvage yard” cars can get melted down as scrap, and get an entirely new lease on life that way, as well.

Q: What about the gasoline engine? What happens if it fails?

A: That’s a great question – an internal combustion engine isn’t like the battery in a cell phone, laptop, or even a car. You can’t just replace it or recondition it by replacing the damaged cells. The good news is that, in most cases, a properly trained mechanic will be able to pull an engine that’s failed due to a faulty head gasket, over-heating, or excessive wear and tear it down into its hundreds (if not thousands) of component parts, then clean those parts and reassemble the engine, replacing a few parts here and there, if necessary. In extreme cases, the main part of the engine (the “block”) may have to be sent out to a specialized machine shop to get its “cylinders” honed or sleeved before the engine can be reassembled. In some cases, that can cost tens of thousands of dollars – but it hardly ever happens, so don’t worry about it. Or, if you just can’t shake that concern, maybe buy the extended warranty.

Q: I read that gasoline cars can catch on fire in an accident. Is that true?

A: Boy, howdy! Gasoline is an extremely flammable liquid, but even so, it’s not as flammable as you’ve probably been led to believe by movies and TV shows. Those fiery explosions with the hero walking slowly away from the burning wreckage are dressed up with oxygenated chemicals that add to the drama of a show at the expense of realism. In real life, a bullet hitting your car’s gas tank would probably just go right through it, causing a potentially dangerous leak but not, in itself, a fire – and that’s a very extreme example of something that might happen. In real life, even the most forceful traffic accidents lead to a raging inferno in a small percentage of cases, with only 560 people dying in gasoline vehicle fires in 2018 (the most recent data I could find). That’s just 560 out of the nearly 12 million reported vehicle accidents specifically because the engineers who design these things understand the risks involved, and design the vehicles to be safe in an impact by protecting the bits that might catch fire. It’s not a perfect science, and tragedies do happen, but the reason they’re on the news is that their rarity makes them newsworthy. These guys know what they’re doing, is what I’m saying.

Q: What if I want to get somewhere in a hurry? Aren’t gasoline cars slow?

A: Slower than what? Sure, there are a few gasoline cars out there with yawn-inducing performance, but most of them are more than capable of getting up highway speeds without drama, and even the slowest gasoline cars can be fun if you play to their strengths, revving them to high RPMs and keeping your foot on the floor. Just keep in mind, that’s going to cut down on your driving range.

Q: Can I fill up my gasoline car at home?

A: No. I mean, you can – but you absolutely should not under any circumstances try to install a commercial-grade gas pump into your home so you can “fill up quickly” or because it will “add to the resale value”.

An ethanol still, on the other hand, has all kinds of practical uses

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Jo Borras
Jo Borras

I've been in and around the auto industry since 1997, and have written for a number of well-known outlets like Cleantechnica, the Truth About Cars, Popular Mechanics, and more. You can also find me talking EVs with Matt Teske and Chris DeMorro on the Electrify Expo Podcast, writing about Swedish cars on my Volvo fan site, or chasing my kids around Oak Park.

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  • PJmacgee PJmacgee on Jul 27, 2021

    Fun lighthearted concept for an article that is a useful thought exercise, to "change the perspective" as they say in corporate training. I would think that in the early days of automobiles, drivers at that time would have to "really plan ahead" on a long trip. I mean, they could leave anytime with their horses and pick up fuel (grass/grains?) anywhere, why bother having to worry about finding some weirdo with a bucket of gas somewhere along the way...i mean, where does gas even come from, certainly there's no infrastructure here to make enough for EVERYONE to suddenly have a car...right?? No, everyone can't suddenly switch to EVs right away. But they're here to stay for many reasons (future national energy security and ease of use/ownership, if nothing else). Logistics problems (materials, grid, chargers, etc) will be solved over the coming decades. We will look back in 50+ years and chuckle about all the clever but finicky Victorian-era mechanical wizardry to convert oil to mechanical motion. Gas cars will never go away totally but they will definitely become a novelty (like classic cars and train locomotives and whatnot), or only practical in extreme use cases (military, maybe).

  • Jalop1991 Jalop1991 on Jul 28, 2021

    Jo is, what--maybe 14? 15? years old? And has never heard of ANYTHING like this? This is nothing but a re-hash of the original: http://users.rcn.com/alderete/humor/comp/cars-as-computers.html

  • Zipper69 "The worry is that vehicles could collect and share Americans' data with the Chinese government"Presumably, via your cellphone connection? Does the average Joe in the gig economy really have "data" that will change the balance of power?
  • Zipper69 Honda seem to have a comprehensive range of sedans that sell well.
  • Oberkanone How long do I have to stay in this job before I get a golden parachute?I'd lower the price of the V-Series models. Improve the quality of interiors across the entire line. I'd add a sedan larger then CT5. I'd require a financial review of Celestiq. If it's not a profit center it's gone. Styling updates in the vision of the XLR to existing models. 2+2 sports coupe woutd be added. Performance in the class of AMG GT and Porsche 911 at a price just under $100k. EV models would NOT be subsidized by ICE revenue.
  • NJRide Let Cadillac be Cadillac, but in the context of 2024. As a new XT5 owner (the Emerald Green got me to buy an old design) I would have happy preferred a Lyriq hybrid. Some who really like the Lyriq's package but don't want an EV will buy another model. Most will go elsewhere. I love the V6 and good but easy to use infotainment. But I know my next car will probably be more electrified w more tech.I don't think anyone is confusing my car for a Blazer but i agree the XT6 is too derivative. Frankly the Enclave looks more prestigious. The Escalade still has got it, though I would love to see the ESV make a comeback. I still think GM missed the boat by not making a Colorado based mini-Blazer and Escalade. I don't get the 2 sedans. I feel a slightly larger and more distinctly Cadillac sedan would sell better. They also need to advertise beyond the Lyriq. I don't feel other luxury players are exactly hitting it out of the park right now so a strengthened Cadillac could regain share.
  • CM Korecko Cadillacs traditionally have been opulent, brash and leaders in the field; the "Standard of the World".That said, here's how to fix the brand:[list=1][*]Forget German luxury cars ever existed.[/*][*]Get rid of the astromech droid names and bring back Seville, Deville, Eldorado, Fleetwood and Brougham.[/*][*]End the electric crap altogether and make huge, gas guzzling land yachts for the significant portion of the population that would fight for a chance to buy one.[/*][*]Stop making sports cars and make true luxury cars for those of us who don't give a damn about the environment and are willing to swim upstream to get what we really want.[/*][*]Stop messing around with technology and make well-made and luxurious interiors.[/*][*]Watch sales skyrocket as a truly different product distinguishes itself to the delight of the target market and the damnation of the Sierra Club. Hell, there is no such thing as bad publicity and the "bad guy" image would actually have a lot of appeal.[/*][/list=1]
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