It's Decision Time for Ford's Carbon Fiber Subframe

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

By the end of the year, you’ll know whether your next front-drive, non-supercar Ford might contain a carbon fiber cradle for its engine. As promised, supplier Magna has delivered a carbon fiber composite subframe prototype to Dearborn, destined for a rigorous life in a Fusion testbed.

There’ll be calculators working overtime as Ford engineers and bean counters figure out whether the lightweight, parts-saving component has a place in the brand’s stable.

Magna first revealed its plans for the co-developed subframe in March 2017. While this isn’t the first time Ford tapped the supplier’s carbon fiber expertise, there’s a vast mass and price difference between the grille opening reinforcement on a pricey model like the Shelby GT500 and a subframe bound for a conventional passenger car.

The supplier’s prototype reduces subframe mass by 34 percent over its steel counterpart. Comprising two molded and four metal parts, the structure replaces 45 steel parts found in a typical Fusion subframe.

“We delivered a series of parts to the customer at the end of last year, and they’ve already started component testing,” Andrew Swikoski, Magna’s global product line director for lightweight composites, told Automotive News. “By the end of the year, we’ll know whether the technology is ready for production or not.”

Swikoski didn’t fully break down the economics of using the pricey material, though he implied Ford customers wouldn’t see a diamond-encrusted markup on the price of a new vehicle. Using Magna’s subframe would cut tooling costs by 30 to 40 percent, he said, and Magna sought to further reduce expense by using several materials in the composite.

Crash testing could be a determining factor in whether the component gets the green light. “It’s not meant to be a primary crash absorber,” Swikoski said, adding that, as the subframe only absorbs 5 percent of a crash’s energy, Ford will rely on the subframe’s steel surroundings for cushioning.

[Image: Magna]

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  • TheEndlessEnigma TheEndlessEnigma on Apr 23, 2018

    Setting: Ford Dealer Service Department Service Advisor: Well sir, we found the issue with your harsh engine vibrations, you have a crack in your engine cradle. Customer: Ok, wonderful......so you can weld that right? How much will it cost? Service Advisor: Err...well....Ford decided that a 20 lb weight reduce would be a fabulous idea so your engine cradle is carbon fiber....you can't weld that. Customer: Errr.......? Service Advisor: So we have to replace the engine cradle...which means removing the engine, transaxle, cooling system....Sir, we have to disassemble your engine compartment. Customer: Great...wonderful....fabulous. How much will that cost? Service Advisor: Well...sir....I see by your paperwork here you *JUST* drove out of warranty. Do you by any chance have a personal relationship with your mortgage banker? 2nd mortgages are awesome!

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    • TheEndlessEnigma TheEndlessEnigma on Apr 27, 2018

      @chaparral And I, as a consumer, will avoid that product. But the, since Ford has decided to stop producing cars Ford will lose me as a customer. There's a reason I don't drive or own a CUV/SUV/Truck. I can afford one of those things but I do not want one of those things.

  • Dantes_inferno Dantes_inferno on Apr 24, 2018

    >It’s Decision Time for Ford’s Carbon Fiber Subframe If the result of that decision is positive, it may inspire Ford to apply carbon fiber to other parts of the car...such as engines and transmissions. No thanks. I'll pass and stick with the actual metals for the time being until I'm dead or the ICE is dead - whichever comes first.

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