The Honda Civic Si's Leaked Torque Rating Beats the Base Accord, at Least

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

Honda isn’t one to dish details on a new product miles ahead of a debut, but information has a way of springing leaks.

An email sent to Honda aficionados from the automaker has ended up on the CivicX forum, and its description of the upcoming Civic Si’s torque rating is apparently legit. However, those fans wish it wasn’t, as the number isn’t exactly that of a performance monster.

How much torque can Civic Si buyers expect from the model’s turbocharged 1.5-liter? 192 lb-ft. And yes, it’s a real number, a Honda representative told Road & Track. Someone at Honda slipped up and offered up the info well before its release date.

Terrific, but what about horsepower? Sorry, you’ll have to wait for another leak to learn that information, unless the automaker succeeds in keeping its mouth shut. Past speculation stated that the model’s horsepower could reach 220, but that now seems too high a ceiling.

With half of the output picture revealed, the Civic Si is clearly shaping up to be a modestly hotter version of the Civic Sport, not a pavement-scorching rocket. That responsibility falls to the upcoming Type R, which boasts 306 hp and 295 lb-ft. In comparison, the Civic Sport’s 1.5-liter turbo puts out 180 hp and 177 lb-ft, while the base model makes do with 174 hp and 162 lb-ft.

While some may bemoan the Si’s somewhat low torque rating (it trails the subcompact Ford Fiesta ST by 10 lb-ft), it’s still a not-insignificant upgrade from the Civic Sport. It also tops the previous-generation Si’s torque by 18 lb-ft. Not only that, but owners can expect to leave four-cylinder Accords in their dust, if that thought provides any comfort at all. The Sport version of Honda’s ever-popular midsize makes 182 lb-ft from its 2.4-liter engine.

There’s still some bragging rights to be found in the number if you’re broad-minded. Honda hasn’t yet released a launch date for the Si, though we’ll see it in the flesh at next month’s New York Auto Show.

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  • Derekson Derekson on Mar 27, 2017

    It seems like they probably should've put a lower tune version of the 2.0T from the Type R in this car rather than a tuned up version of the 1.5T from the EX-T, no?

    • Notapreppie Notapreppie on Mar 28, 2017

      Yah, but then there wouldn't be enough separation between Si and R when tuners figure out how to crank up the boost on the Si.

  • OldManPants OldManPants on Mar 28, 2017

    when honda get dumb? young d1ck not want liddle ricer no more - want truck make ridgeline type r

  • Theflyersfan Keep the car. It's reliable, hasn't nickeled and dimed you to death, and it looks like you're a homeowner so something with a back seat and a trunk is really helpful! As I've discovered becoming a homeowner with a car with no back seat and a trunk the size of a large cooler, even simple Target or Ikea runs get complicated if you don't ride up with a friend with a larger car. And I wonder if the old VW has now been left in Price Hill with the keys in the ignition and a "Please take me" sign taped to the windshield? The problems it had weren't going to improve with time.
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  • SPPPP Nice vehicle. My only fear with driving it so little is rodent damage - but I guess keeping it in the garage cuts that risk down a lot.
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