Toyota Asking Dealers To Stop Advertising Below Invoice, World Not Over Yet

Aaron Cole
by Aaron Cole

At an upcoming dealer meeting in Las Vegas next month, Toyota will ask its dealers to stop advertising cars below invoice in an attempt to help keep residual values higher and keep dealers from competing in a “race to the bottom,” Automotive News is reporting.

If accepted, Toyota would join Honda in penalizing dealers who advertise cars below invoice. According to the report, after three reported violations in one year, Honda could withhold marketing money from a dealer — which could be $400 per vehicle. It’s unclear how Toyota may penalize its dealers who don’t comply with the proposed new rule.

A less-than-happy dealer said he would consider suing Toyota for price fixing if the ad mandate were enforced.

“This is not in the best interest of the consumer, and I’m not going to keep my mouth shut,” said Earl Stewart, who runs a dealership in Florida.

A Boston-area Toyota dealer said keeping other dealers from advertising below invoice could keep unscrupulous dealers from bait-and-switch tactics to lure buyers to a showroom with one price, and sell them on another.

“It would be wonderful if this move could put some sanity into pricing,” said Mike Hills, general manager of Bristol Toyota-Scion.

Stewart said that he sells three out of four cars below invoice and that his dealership is a no-haggle dealership, something Lexus will reportedly adopt soon. He said that if he can’t advertise below invoice, he would lose business.

(It’s worth mentioning that dealer holdback allows some dealers to sell below invoice, but still make a profit on the car.)

At its Scion stores, Toyota is reportedly streamlining its online shopping process to encourage buyers to shop and pay for a car online before having it delivered*.

*Only in states where that sort of thing is legal, of course.

No word on whether balloons on cars would still be allowed.


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  • Runs_on_h8raide Runs_on_h8raide on Aug 24, 2015

    And people don't want dealers? If all cars were directly sold to consumers you'd have to pay higher prices....guaranteed!

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    • Erikstrawn Erikstrawn on Aug 25, 2015

      @Pch101 Then don't buy a Tesla.

  • Qest Qest on Aug 25, 2015

    "Stewart said that he sells three out of four cars below invoice and that his dealership is a no-haggle dealership..." A "no-haggle dealership" that sells 75% of their cars cheaper than the "no haggle price" to people who haggle? The Truth About Cars buries the lede.

    • Scoutdude Scoutdude on Aug 26, 2015

      That is not at all what was implied. The implication is that his no haggle price is below invoice on 75% of the vehicles. The no haggle dealerships around here price the majority of their cars under MSRP, can't say if it is below invoice because I haven't researched the actual invoice pricing on them. But it is normal to see them advertise that their no haggle price is $xxxx under MSRP for the bulk of their cars. Of course the hot models are often discounted minimally off of MSRP if at all and the discount on a high end model is larger than that of a base model of the same vehicle.

  • Ajla But no ES500h at this time? 🤔 I'd be a little surprised if they bothered to make a trim with the 2.4T or any other ICE-only version. I'm thinking a 250hp AWD hybrid will be the "ES350h". Then whatever these "e" versions are and then maybe something with the Hybridmax.
  • Jeff Not so much of a Malibu fan but this is a missed opportunity by GM to make the Malibu a hybrid only and sell it at a more competitive price. This would make a perfect fleet rental car with a hybrid and priced right it would be popular with many buyers who don't want a truck, suv, or crossover but want an American made car. The tooling and dies have long been paid off just offer the hybrid and make the interior a little nicer.
  • SCE to AUX This makes the Pontiac Aztek look beautiful.
  • Jeff If we are worried about the Chinese spying on us and gathering information then we need to make certain specifications on vehicles imported from China that would lessen any concerns about this. I don't see how we could eliminate all information gathering especially if that vehicle has connectivity to your phone.
  • ToolGuy Oh look what's this?
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