Shanghai Auto Show: BYD And Daimler Show First Glimpse At Joint EV While BYD Gets Mad At Reuters

Bertel Schmitt
by Bertel Schmitt

The Denza shows its stripes

So Denza, the odd couple joint venture between Daimler and BYD, lifted the veil of its upcoming all-electric SUV. A car in heavy camouflage rolled on stage here at the Shanghai Motor Show. The car looked, well, like the old B-Class from which it is derived.

As for the specs of the car, they remain largely foggy. Clarity is promised for the Guangzhou Auto Show, which will be in November. On a screen that was only readable by VIPs in the first row, it said that the battery will be “developed for vehicle lifetime,” that the range will be “well over 200km” (125 miles), and that the battery will disconnect from the drivetrain in case of emergency.

More and more say that is not true at all

Joint venture partner BYD in the meantime is betting on hybrid. At the show, BYD unveiled what Reuters calls a quote self-developed unquote gasoline-electric car technology. Other carmakers, led by Toyota, are also suddenly betting big on hybrid. Toyota’s presentation today was given by the father of the Prius and designated Toyota Chairman Takeshi Uchiyamada who promised a big hybrid push for and in China. The technology so far was a slow seller. Insiders expect that the Chinese government will extend bigger subsidies to buyers of hybrid cars, after the big electric car revolution in China turned out to be a bust.

Zetsche did not show

Of course, BYD would not confirm the Reuters story that it might ditch gasoline-powered cars within two years to focus on mostly hybrid and a few EVs. I am told that BYD’s legal department contacted Reuters and demanded that the story is taken down. Reuters refused. Reuters reporter Norihiko Shirouzu says his sources are impeccable. Of course, the Reuters piece contained other uncouth material, such as one BYD exec saying that “The last three years have been tough, and painful at times. Everybody beat us up. A lot of long-term investors and friends of the company lost patience with us.”

Bertel Schmitt
Bertel Schmitt

Bertel Schmitt comes back to journalism after taking a 35 year break in advertising and marketing. He ran and owned advertising agencies in Duesseldorf, Germany, and New York City. Volkswagen A.G. was Bertel's most important corporate account. Schmitt's advertising and marketing career touched many corners of the industry with a special focus on automotive products and services. Since 2004, he lives in Japan and China with his wife <a href="http://www.tomokoandbertel.com"> Tomoko </a>. Bertel Schmitt is a founding board member of the <a href="http://www.offshoresuperseries.com"> Offshore Super Series </a>, an American offshore powerboat racing organization. He is co-owner of the racing team Typhoon.

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  • Lorenzo Lorenzo on Apr 20, 2013

    It looks like BYD is pretty much flying solo, with minimal assistance from Daimler. I wonder what's in it for Daimler? Did they grab the joint venture with BYD to keep someone else out, or are they just in a holding pattern until the Zetsche leadership issue is resolved?

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    • Lorenzo Lorenzo on Apr 20, 2013

      carguy: Access to the Chinese auto market for Mercedes luxury cars. Daimler already has a JV with BAG for access, and BAG is a better access point, being state-owned. The reason Bertel called it an odd-couple JV is that BYD is a battery maker that got into cars by buying a car company. BYD doesn't really bring anything to the table for Daimler, which is why I asked.

  • Nzecowitz Nzecowitz on Apr 20, 2013

    Love the picture of the teleprompter. Just perfect.

  • 28-Cars-Later Zerohedge reported something similar in Belgium with the reasoning being the Chinese are flooding Europe with EVs in the early innings of a trade war. For Tesla any guess is a good one but my money is on BEV saturation has been reached.
  • MacTassos Bagpipes. And loud ones at that.Bagpipes for back up warning sounds.Bagpipes for horns.Bagpipes for yellow light warning alert and louder bagpipes for red light warnings.Bagpipes for drowsy driver alerts.Bagpipes for using your phone while driving.Bagpipes for following too close.Bagpipes for drifting out of your lane.Bagpipes for turning without signaling.Bagpipes for warning your lights are off when driving at night.Bagpipes for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign.Bagpipes for seat belts not buckled.Bagpipes for leaving the iron on when going on vacation. I’ll ne’er make that mistake agin’.
  • TheEndlessEnigma I would mandate the elimination of all autonomous driving tech in automobiles. And specifically for GM....sorry....gm....I would mandate On Star be offered as an option only.Not quite the question you asked but.....you asked.
  • MaintenanceCosts There's not a lot of meat to this (or to an argument in the opposite direction) without some data comparing the respective frequency of "good" activations that prevent a collision and false alarms. The studies I see show between 25% and 40% reduction in rear-end crashes where AEB is installed, so we have one side of that equation, but there doesn't seem to be much if any data out there on the frequency of false activations, especially false activations that cause a collision.
  • Zerocred Automatic emergency braking scared the hell out of me. I was coming up on a line of stopped cars that the Jeep (Grand Cherokee) thought was too fast and it blared out an incredibly loud warbling sound while applying the brakes. I had the car under control and wasn’t in danger of hitting anything. It was one of those ‘wtf just happened’ moments.I like adaptive cruise control, the backup camera and the warning about approaching emergency vehicles. I’m ambivalent&nbsp; about rear cross traffic alert and all the different tones if it thinks I’m too close to anything. I turned off lane keep assist, auto start-stop, emergency backup stop. The Jeep also has automatic parking (parallel and back in), which I’ve never used.
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