California: Another Red Light Camera Referendum Possible

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The city council in Murrieta, California voted Tuesday to expand red light camera ticketing, and residents are not happy. Officials approved a three-year photo ticketing contract extension with American Traffic Solutions (ATS) and directed the private company to set up 24-hour video surveillance at each intersection. Local activists want to force a referendum onto the ballot to let residents decide whether those devices should be unplugged.

“I’m just so fed up with this,” Diana Serafin told TheNewspaper in an interview. “It’s the $500 fine and big brother watching you. To make an intersection safe, you need longer yellows and a longer all-red period. The city says they want the intersection safe, but cameras cause more rear end accidents. So I’m fighting back.”

Serafin is basing her initiative petition on a slightly modified version of the language endorsed by 73 percent of voters in Anaheim, the only other California city to vote on automated enforcement. Serafin and her allies have a great deal of experience with the process having worked with the Limited Government Political Action Committee, a group that put three initiatives on the ballot to limit the pay, term in office and benefits for city council members. All three measures passed by large margins. For the red light camera ban to qualify for the ballot, about 5,000 to 6,000 signatures must be collected.

“I’m really confident that the people will sign,” Serafin said. “The city council doesn’t get it. They don’t care. We’re starting to stand up and fight back.”

In a well-rehearsed presentation last night, Police Corporal Jay Froboese and Councilman Rick Gibbs spent more than an hour defending the use of cameras first installed in the city in 2005. Froboese vigorously denied that cost-neutral contract provisions violate the law, despite rulings in San Mateo ( view ruling) and Orange County ( view opinion) striking down provisions identical to those used in Murrieta. A pending federal court case is also exploring the issue while other rulings in Santa Ana questioned the legality of the evidence provided by the cameras ( view ruling). Froboese explained that Murrieta has a comfortable relationship with the two Riverside judges who hear the camera cases and have taken judicial notice of the March 3, 2009 ruling People v. McLaughlin. This means the court will no longer hear any challenge to the contract.

“The two sitting judges that we have dealt with over the past five years on the Riverside Superior Court have both taken the contract to heart,” Froboese said. “They have met with attorneys and with myself and every time the contract is found legal.”

One resident insisted that the surveillance devices violated a much higher law.

“I don’t need to remind you that you all took an oath to defend the Constitution,” Francis Burns told the city council. “Because you are all constitutional officers, this issue is even more important for you… It’s my belief that any government’s number one priority — whether it’s state, federal or local — is to preserve our civil, personal and economic liberties. Without those things intact, we have nothing left.”

Red light cameras and speed cameras have been put to a public vote on fifteen occasions. Automated enforcement has never survived a referendum.

Courtesy: Thenewspaper.com

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  • FleetofWheel FleetofWheel on Jan 21, 2011

    The intersection in question will not need any traffic signaling device whatsoever because the 24 hour surveillance camera will ensure safety for the public.

  • CarPerson CarPerson on Jan 21, 2011

    Get these three sections added to your state code and it's game, set, match for the cameras. As a side benefit, intersection incidents drop by 70-80% with one reporting 92% and another 94%. 1. One second shall be added to all calculated results. Further, if the resultant value is less than 4.00 seconds, the value shall be increased to 4.00 seconds. 2. A minimum of 0.50 seconds shall be added to the final calculated or mandated value to arrive at the value to enter into the traffic controller. Further, whenever analysis of the traffic controller system circuitry up to the 90% illumination of the light indicates a higher delay is present, the higher value at the 90% confidence level shall be used. 3. Red light violation citations shall not be issued for infractions less than 1.0 seconds.

  • Varezhka I have still yet to see a Malibu on the road that didn't have a rental sticker. So yeah, GM probably lost money on every one they sold but kept it to boost their CAFE numbers.I'm personally happy that I no longer have to dread being "upgraded" to a Maxima or a Malibu anymore. And thankfully Altima is also on its way out.
  • Tassos Under incompetent, affirmative action hire Mary Barra, GM has been shooting itself in the foot on a daily basis.Whether the Malibu cancellation has been one of these shootings is NOT obvious at all.GM should be run as a PROFITABLE BUSINESS and NOT as an outfit that satisfies everybody and his mother in law's pet preferences.IF the Malibu was UNPROFITABLE, it SHOULD be canceled.More generally, if its SEGMENT is Unprofitable, and HALF the makers cancel their midsize sedans, not only will it lead to the SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST ones, but the survivors will obviously be more profitable if the LOSERS were kept being produced and the SMALL PIE of midsize sedans would yield slim pickings for every participant.SO NO, I APPROVE of the demise of the unprofitable Malibu, and hope Nissan does the same to the Altima, Hyundai with the SOnata, Mazda with the Mazda 6, and as many others as it takes to make the REMAINING players, like the Excellent, sporty Accord and the Bulletproof Reliable, cheap to maintain CAMRY, more profitable and affordable.
  • GregLocock Car companies can only really sell cars that people who are new car buyers will pay a profitable price for. As it turns out fewer and fewer new car buyers want sedans. Large sedans can be nice to drive, certainly, but the number of new car buyers (the only ones that matter in this discussion) are prepared to sacrifice steering and handling for more obvious things like passenger and cargo space, or even some attempt at off roading. We know US new car buyers don't really care about handling because they fell for FWD in large cars.
  • Slavuta Why is everybody sweating? Like sedans? - go buy one. Better - 2. Let CRV/RAV rust on the dealer lot. I have 3 sedans on the driveway. My neighbor - 2. Neighbors on each of our other side - 8 SUVs.
  • Theflyersfan With sedans, especially, I wonder how many of those sales are to rental fleets. With the exception of the Civic and Accord, there are still rows of sedans mixed in with the RAV4s at every airport rental lot. I doubt the breakdown in sales is publicly published, so who knows... GM isn't out of the sedan business - Cadillac exists and I can't believe I'm typing this but they are actually decent - and I think they are making a huge mistake, especially if there's an extended oil price hike (cough...Iran...cough) and people want smaller and hybrids. But if one is only tied to the quarterly shareholder reports and not trends and the big picture, bad decisions like this get made.
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