Is the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR a Death Car?

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

One evening, whilst dining at a Turkish restaurant in Mayfair, I watched my server nearly trip over another waiter’s leg. (The staff member whose appendage had caused the offense was kneeling by the desert cart.) The burly fellow who’d almost lost his balance looked at his compatriot with dagger-filled eyes. Waiter number two stared straight back. “Yes. I am trying to kill you,” he said with deadpan earnestness. Reading Scott Burgess’ review of the Shelby GT500KR, it seems pretty clear that the 540hp ‘Stang is equally intent on eliminating its driver. Which is to say not intentionally, but what difference does that make? “The 2008 Ford Shelby GT500 King of the Road scares me,” Burgess admits from the git-go. “The first ‘incident’ occurred along Gibraltar Road when I started to pass a minivan poking its way up the same straightaway. With no oncoming traffic and the lane open, I dropped the six-speed manual into third and kicked out to the left. The moment I mashed the pedal to the floor and listened to that supercharged whirl come from under the hood, the SVT light on the speedometer lit up and the back end of the KR jumped to the left and shuddered — full power, full torque ripping through the rear axle. ‘Oh, sassafras’ — that’s paraphrased — blurted out of my mouth.” Incident number two after the jump.

“Anyone who likes to go fast knows that one of the best places to test a vehicle is on an entrance ramp. There’s a feeling that there’s a free pass for perhaps going over the speed limit. So, we floor it.

“On one around Detroit, I took the KR and drilled it as I came around a 90 degree corner, expecting to power slide through the turn. Hey, it happens in these cars. Much to my surprise, the KR stuck to the road and I shot out of the corner like a stone from David’s sling.

“Fortunately, there was no one immediately in front of me, as I would have put a Le Mans stripe into their trunk.”

I’ve already called previous super-‘Stangs death cars. I will wait for a drive before issuing my final pronouncement on this one (fancy that). Meanwhile, what’s the opposite of reductio ad absurdum?

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  • Landcrusher Landcrusher on Dec 28, 2008

    RF, Good point, but while most car regs have made sense (though not nearly as much as they could have), much of the rest hasn't. The bottom line is that people put waaaaay to much faith in the idea that there will not be negative consequences to their own foolishness. While I am not for selling unsafe cars, selling a specialty car that does what I think a car like this is going to likely do when stomped on should be celebrated as a last vestige of freedom and personal responsibility. It is what it is. Respect it or get hurt. You know, like a chainsaw. They still sell those.

  • PK_Kool PK_Kool on Dec 28, 2008
    I understand. I’m not a fan of the Mustang, or a diehard Ford fan, nor have I driven a Mustang on a racetrack at the limits (haven’t even driven better than a GT, in fact - mostly V6s). However, it seems to me that despite an overall feeling of crudeness, the current Mustang isn’t dangerous to drive as long as you adapt your driving style a bit to its, uh, characteristics. It’s not a BMW with double wishbones at each wheel. I'm guessing you're talking about the 3 series? Because a 3 Series has NEVER had a double wishbone suspension. It’s not a FWD Honda compact with laser-tight steering. It’s a Mustang. If you think a civic has "laser tight" steering you seriously need to drive some other cars. Do yourself a favor and borrow someones miata. A Mustang's rack is pretty average, but slow. I attribute this to the pedestrian all season tires. A GT500's rack is pretty decent, with a surprising amount of sensitivity for such a heavy car but I also think it is too slow. I don't know what Roush did to their stage 3 Stang, but it was is an incredible transformation for steering response (average to full on sports car). It feels like a shorter ratio rack, but to my knowledge the rack isn't modified. I'm guessing the change in response is from the wheels and low profile tires. (GT500's have a lot of sidewall). And for the record, the KR is on a r-compound version of the regular eagle super car tires (You can see a Star on the KR tires to indicate this). R-Comps + cold weather = bad idea.
  • CM Korecko Cadillacs traditionally have been opulent, brash and leaders in the field; the "Standard of the World".That said, here's how to fix the brand:[list=1][*]Forget German luxury cars ever existed.[/*][*]Get rid of the astromech droid names and bring back Seville, Deville, Eldorado, Fleetwood and Brougham.[/*][*]End the electric crap altogether and make huge, gas guzzling land yachts for the significant portion of the population that would fight for a chance to buy one.[/*][*]Stop making sports cars and make true luxury cars for those of us who don't give a damn about the environment and are willing to swim upstream to get what we really want.[/*][*]Stop messing around with technology and make well-made and luxurious interiors.[/*][*]Watch sales skyrocket as a truly different product distinguishes itself to the delight of the target market and the damnation of the Sierra Club. Hell, there is no such thing as bad publicity and the "bad guy" image would actually have a lot of appeal.[/*][/list=1]
  • FreedMike Not surprisingly, I have some ideas. What Cadillac needs, I think, is a statement. They don’t really have an identity. They’re trying a statement car with the Celestiq, and while that’s the right idea, it has the wrong styling and a really wrong price tag. So, here’s a first step: instead of a sedan, do a huge, fast, capable and ridiculously smooth and quiet electric touring coupe. If you want an example of what I’m thinking of, check out the magnificent Rolls-Royce Spectre. But this Cadillac coupe would be uniquely American, it’d be named “Eldorado,” and it’d be a lot cheaper than the $450,000 Spectre – call it a buck twenty-five, with a range of bespoke options for prospective buyers that would make each one somewhat unique. Make it 220 inches long, on the same platform as the Celestiq, give it retro ‘60s styling (or you could do a ‘50s or ‘70s throwback, I suppose), and at least 700 horsepower, standard. Why electric? It’s the ultimate throwback to ‘60s powertrains: effortlessly fast, smooth, and quiet, but with a ton more horsepower. It’s the perfect drivetrain for a dignified touring coupe. In fact, I’d skip any mention of environmental responsibility in this car’s marketing – sell it on how it drives, period.  How many would they sell? Not many. But the point of the exercise is to do something that will turn heads and show people what this brand can do.  Second step: give the lineup a mix of electric and gas models, and make Cadillac gas engines bespoke to the brand. If they need to use generic GM engine designs, fine – take those engines and massage them thoroughly into something special to Cadillac, with specific tuning and output. No Cadillac should leave the factory with an engine straight out of a Malibu or a four-banger Silverado. Third step: a complete line-wide interior redo. Stop the cheapness that’s all over the current sedans and crossovers. Just stop it. Use the Lyriq as a blueprint – it’s a big improvement over the current crop and a good first step. I’d also say Cadillac has a good blend of screen-controlled and switch-controlled user interfaces; don’t give into the haptic-touch and wall-to-wall screen thing. (On the subject of Caddy interiors – as much as I bag on the Celestiq, check out the interior on that thing. Wow.)Fourth step: Blackwing All The Things – some gas, others electric. And keep the electric/gas mix so buyers have a choice.Fifth step: be patient. That’s not easy, but if they’re doing a brand reset, it’ll take time. 
  • NJRide So if GM was serious about selling this why no updates for so long? Or make something truly unique instead of something that looked like a downmarket Altima?
  • Kmars2009 I rented one last fall while visiting Ohio. Not a bad car...but not a great car either. I think it needs a new version. But CUVs are King... unfortunately!
  • Ajla Remember when Cadillac introduced an entirely new V8 and proceeded to install it in only 800 cars before cancelling everything?
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