Piston Slap: Can I Still Drive This?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Nicholas writes:

Hi Sajeev,

Daily reader but not a commenter. Had a question regarding a recently deer damaged car that I wanted to see what you and the community might have to say about it. I’m the owner of a 2003, Honda Civic LX, 4-door, manual transmission, with 56,000 miles on the odometer. The car spent most of its life in an underground parking garage in the District of Columbia and was driven sporadically on the weekends. As a result, it was in great condition until its unfortunate encounter with the deer.

My insurance company estimated damages at approximately 3600 dollars (cracked headlight, chipped windscreen, windscreen trim, dented hood, fender, rear passenger door, and missing side view mirror). I opted not to have the car repaired immediately and the assessor cut me a check for the amount of damage less my deductable. I had the body shop put on an aftermarket mirror and the car is now drivable albeit ugly. No damage to the frame or mechanical bits. CarMax offered me 4,000 for the car in its current condition.

Right now I use the car for a once a week mega commute to DC (200 miles round trip) and to drop my infant daughter off at daycare in the mornings. My wife drives an Audi Q5 that we use for everything else.

Since my car was 9 years old and somewhat small, I had been thinking about getting a new car. I wasn’t planning on doing so until next year since there’s a lot of interesting new products in the pipeline. As I see it now, I have a couple of options going forward.

1. Get the Civic repaired. The only problem with this option is that I’ll never get the put into it money back when I sell/trade it in. This is more true if I pay for OEM sheet metal (insurance will only pay for aftermarket). Right now if I were to sell the car to CarMax and cash the insurance check, I’d have 7,000 in my pocket. If the car is repaired I can’t see that I’d get more that 5-6k for it, so I’d basically be losing 2,000 dollars. One caveat, I did an autotrader search and saw that identical civics (same year, manual trans etc), which more miles on them (80-100k) were being offered for sale a 7-8k. A lot of them had accident damage according to the carfax reports (damaged bumpers). Perhaps I could get more than 5-6k for mine, but not certain.

2. Get a new car. I planed on driving the Civic for the next year or so while I determined what kind of car to replace it with. Against my better judgment, I was thinking of getting a German car (my wife has had excellent experiences with her current Audi and the A4 she owned before that). GTI, Audi or BMW are all under consideration. Although I could afford the Audi or BMW, I’m wondering if it’s really worth the 40k to get one (spend money on experiences not things etc.). GTI is expensive when compared to Camcords, but significantly cheaper than the other German iron. Problem is with a child and potentially another one in the future, should I really be spending my on a 4-door hot hatch? I pretty much driven the equivalent of ‘hair shirts’ my whole life, so part of me wants to actually get a nice ride for once.

3. Drive the ugly Civic until the wheels come off. Although it offends my aesthetic sensibilities, the Civic is drivable. The only issue I’m having is wind noise from the after market mirror that the body shop put on. Can’t seem to cure it with high-density foam tape. Considering the primary use of the car is for a DC commuter, does it matter if it’s ugly? Did I mention I’m the son of immigrants so frugality has been ingrained into me?

I think that’s everything. Probably need to make a decision in the upcoming months so a speedy resolution would be welcomed.

Thanks in advance\

Sajeev answers:

Son of immigrants? Okay with driving a junky looking car because someone close to you has an Audi Q5? Your story hits close to home.

That said, this is a no brainer: drive that little shit until there’s nothing left! Don’t use new OEM parts, any junkyard or aftermarket bits will do fine. Going on eBay is a good idea, you can easily install a cheapy repro headlight in your spare time. But let the rest be for a while. You can get the hood,windscreen, etc fixed later.

Ahem, this is also a good time to tell everyone to inspect their (Halogen, not HID) headlight filaments to look for chrome peeling or other degradation. If so, replace them. I’ve seen some people need new bulbs after 2 years of use, so this is IMPORTANT!

See if your body shop can exchange that noisy mirror for a proper Honda part from the junkyard. Doesn’t matter if it’s the wrong color, just paint it (both?) semi-flat black with some cheapy rattle can paint. Be proud of what you are doing. You are obviously of the fixer-upper personality from your letter, so don’t be shy. Roll that bucket up and down DC with pride!!!

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  • BobinPgh BobinPgh on Aug 01, 2012

    Maybe off the subject, but why is it on this blog so much, some driver always says "a child and another one on the way"? Are you all trying to out-breed each other? If the writer is son of immigrants and frugal why are you having another kid? If you decide your family is complete you can buy whatever car you want. I have no kids, I would probably take the 4000 from Carmax and buy like a Honda Accord for more space on the long commute.

    • Burgersandbeer Burgersandbeer on Aug 01, 2012

      Frugal = not buying expensive, disposable consumer products. Kids are expensive and some truly low-income families that can't support them without help should remember that, but it sounds like the writer can move things around a little and afford another kid easily. Most don't look at kids as a line item on their budget.

  • BrentNelson BrentNelson on Aug 06, 2012

    I don't think so that you drive this car again, because its condition is too bad. You have to spend a lot of money to repair it instead of that you can think to buy a new car. that will be better for you If you purchase a new car.

  • Bob Funny how Oldsmobile was offering a GPS system to help if you were lost, yet GM as a company was very lost. Not really sure that they are not still lost. They make hideous looking trucks, Cadillac is a crappy Chevy pretending to be fancy. To be honest, I would never step in a GM show room now or ever. Boring, cheap ugly and bad resale why bother. I get enough of GM when i rent on trips from airports. I have to say, does anybody at GM ever drive what everyone else drives? Do they ever then look at what crap they put out in style fit and finish? Come on, for real, do they? Cadillac updated slogan should be " sub standard of the 3rd world", or " almost as good as Tata motors". Enough said.
  • Sam Jacobs I want a sedan. When a buy a car or even rent one, I don’t want to ride up high. I don’t want a 5-door. I want a trunk to keep my stuff out of sight. It’s quieter, cars handle better, I don’t need to be at the same height as a truck. I have a 2022 Subaru Legacy Touring XT, best car ever, equipped as a luxury sedan, so quick and quiet. I don’t understand automakers’ decisions to take away sedans or simply stop updating them — giving up the competition. The Camry and Accord should not be our only choices. Impala and Fusion were beautiful when they were axed.
  • Spamvw I think you need to remember WHY the big 2 and 1/2 got out of the car business. Without going political, the CAFE standards signed into law meant unless you had a higher gas mileage fleet, you couldn't meet the standards.The Irony is that, the law made sedans so small with low roof lines, that normal people migrated to SUV's and Trucks. Now we get worse mileage than before.
  • TheEndlessEnigma Somehow, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai/Kia and Mazda are able to build sedans in North America AND turn a profit on those sedans at the same time.
  • Tane94 There definitely is demand for sedans and history will condemn Ford, GM and Stellantis for abandoning the segment. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis and Honda, Toyota, Nissan continue to invest in their sedans and redesign the models.
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