Piston Slap: An "Occasional Jaunt" On...Winter Tires?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Anonymous writes:

Sajeev,

Recently I picked up a set of Bridgestone Blizzak WS60 winter tires for my 2006 Mitsubishi Evolution IX GSR (lightly modded at approximately 350 whp/320 wtq) and unfortunately I was unable to get a “V” speed rating in winter tires as they only came in “H”.

http://www.bridgestonetire.com/productdetails/TireSubBrand/Blizzak_LM-60

How dead-set are those tire ratings? I wonder because there was an “incident” involving myself, another Evo and a BMW 135i which included speeds in excess of the 130mph speed rating (surface conditions were dry, closed road, no spectators). Would an occasional jaunt above the speed rating of the tire cause long-term damage to the tire, or would it take a constant load to delaminate from the rim?

Thank you in advance for your time.

Sajeev answers:

Being an H-town boy who only enjoys visiting cold climates for business or vacation gives me pause on my answer. And while there’s street racing aplenty over here, we don’t try to find ourselves in jail on the wings of flying winter tires. So with that in mind…

Your question has too many conditionals and vague language (for good reason, I assume) to give a solid answer. As such, here’s a crappy answer: a tire’s performance deteriorates over time, as rubber naturally hardens, stress cracks, etc. A 1-2 year old tire might be fine running up to its speed rating, in theory. Temperature also comes into play: if you live in 100+ degree weather and want to drive triple digits for sustained periods, your tires will go much sooner than someone doing the same at 60 degrees.

Duration is a big concern, as you mentioned. There’s a good chance you can run Blizzaks at or above their speed rating for less than a minute with no problem. If you ran it for 10 minutes or longer? That “good chance” turns into a “not bloody likely” in my opinion. This notion is described in far better detail on the eng-tips.com forum.

Perhaps it goes without saying, but this behavior is pretty stupid. And since many of us are guilty of this automotive sin, we shouldn’t be proud of doing it…even if damn near everyone with a lead foot and a 250+ hp vehicle has tried it at some point in their lives. I’m not here to judge, just to speak my mind. Best of luck.

Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com . Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry.

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  • Sajeev Mehta Sajeev Mehta on Mar 19, 2012

    FYI: I posted this as anonymous, the person who wrote the letter didn't request it.

  • Advance_92 Advance_92 on Mar 19, 2012

    Good on you. Anyone who says they were on a 'closed road' rather than at 'the track' is just asking for a serious flame job.

  • Jwee The real personal income for 2022 was $56k, and houshold around $100k, but your point is valid. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RPIPCUS
  • Joe my family personally dislikes SUVs and there are plenty of others like us. It’s getting to the point that buying a good looking sedan or coupe is difficult. What do me my wife and two kids drive… CT5-V, Charger HEMI, Mustang GT and A Sentra.. (one of my kids is not a car enthusiast ) where do we go next? BMW? Audi? Would like to keep buying American when possible
  • Lou_BC Nah. Tis but a scratch. It's not as if they canceled a pickup model or SUV. Does anyone really care about one less Chevy car?
  • ToolGuy If by "sedan" we mean a long (enough) wheelbase, roomy first and second row, the right H point, prodigious torqueages, the correct balance of ride/handling for long-distance touring, large useable trunk, lush enveloping sound system, excellent seat comfort, thoughtful interior storage etc. etc. then yes we need 'more' sedans, not a lot more, just a few really nice ones.If by "sedan" we mean the twisted interpretation by the youts from ArtCenter who apparently want to sit on the pavement in a cramped F16 cockpit and punish any rear seat occupants, then no, we don't need that, very few people want that (outside of the 3 people who 'designed' it) which is why they didn't sell and got canceled.Refer to 2019 Avalon for a case study in how to kill a sedan by listening to the 'stylists' and prioritizing the wrong things.
  • Lou_BC Just build 4 sizes of pickups. Anyone who doesn't want one can buy a pickup based SUV ;)
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