2022 New York Auto Show: Jeep Goes Long With the Wagoneer UPDATED

by Tim Healey

Published: April 13th, 2022

2022 new york auto show jeep goes long with the wagoneer updated

Let’s say you run a car company that just launched a large SUV last year. Let’s say you feel, for whatever reason, that it needs more length.

What do you do? Well, you extend it, of course.

The 2023 Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer L add 12 inches to go to 226.7 inches in overall length and 7 inches in wheelbase to go to 130. This is said to extend cargo space to 44.2 cubic feet behind the third row with the seats up on the Grand Wagoneer — a 15.8 cubic feet increase over the standard wheelbase vehicle, according to Jeep.

Seating capacity remains 7 or 8, and Jeep claims towing of up to 10,000 pounds.

A Wagoneer Carbide trim bows, adding gloss-black wheels, Black Onyx grille rings, gloss-black grille texture, gloss-black appliques for the mirrors and headlamps, and unique trim for the instrument panel, plus what Jeep calls “Global Black” seats. This trim also gets special front and rear fascias.

The longer Wagoneers get either the new twin-turbo, 3.0-liter Hurricane inline-six that makes 420 horsepower and 468 lb-ft of torque (regular Wagoneer) or Hurricane 510 (Grand). The 510 has the same displacement and cylinder count, and twin turbos as well, but it makes 510 horsepower and 500 lb-ft of torque. Jeep claims a 1 to 2 mpg bonus over the current V8s.

As is typical for Jeep, three 4×4 systems are offered — Quadra-Trac I and II and Quadra-Drive III.

Third-row passengers get a special storage compartment that doesn’t exist on standard-wheelbase models.

It’s hard for this author to imagine who needs an even longer Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer, but clearly, some folks need the extra passenger and cargo room.

Those folks will be paying dearly — we don’t have pricing on the L models, but the standard-wheelbase models aren’t cheap.

If you’re in NYC, you’ll be able to see the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer L at the Javits Center during the New York Auto Show.

Updated with pics from the show floor, as seen below. Sorry for some blurriness, chalk it up to poor lighting flummoxing my camera:

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Tim Healey

Tim Healey grew up around the auto-parts business and has always had a love for cars — his parents joke his first word was “‘Vette”. Despite this, he wanted to pursue a career in sports writing but he ended up falling semi-accidentally into the automotive-journalism industry, first at Consumer Guide Automotive and later at Web2Carz.com. He also worked as an industry analyst at Mintel Group and freelanced for About.com, CarFax, Vehix.com, High Gear Media, Torque News, FutureCar.com, Cars.com, among others, and of course Vertical Scope sites such as AutoGuide.com, Off-Road.com, and HybridCars.com. He’s an urbanite and as such, doesn’t need a daily driver, but if he had one, it would be compact, sporty, and have a manual transmission.

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BEPLA on Apr 14, 2022

The shiny stealth package doesn't make it any more attractive - It just blocks the sun more effectively.

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BobinPgh on Apr 14, 2022

Maybe this could be the next Imperial. Change some styling to be less bulky, have fancy interior and it could compete against Cadillac Escalade. Imperial could once again be an independent brand under Stellantis.

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