Piston Slap: All Abarth That Bad Diagnosis!

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta
Chris Writes:

Greetings Sajeev!

We’ve just been informed that our 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth has 180-180-180-20 compression and likely needs a new engine. Options are somewhat clouded by a remaining note of about $6,000.

Looks like this boils down to:

  1. Get out, despite the sunk costs and remaining note, and get into a


    more conventional car.
  2. Go the used engine route to save a few $$.
  3. Source a new engine and commit for ~5/6 years +

The SU (spousal unit) is the primary driver and adores the car. I drive it infrequently and find it tedious. It has about 80,000 miles and has been OK on other maintenance issues. All work will be done by a pro – this is so far over my head, mechanically, that there’s just no way – and the car is a daily driver, so commute/mobility issues create additional urgency.

Help!

Before Sajeev’s slow-ass self could respond…

Greetings, again, Sajeev:

This is the epilogue of the Fiat 500 Abarth engine swap saga that we exchanged email about last week.

As I was thinking over the options before me, I realized what I really needed was a better diagnosis. I spoke with the service writer at the Fiat dealership nearby and he assured me that the engine replacement was at minimum an over-reaction, at maximum a tragic mistake-in-waiting. Clearly needing to see the car to make a conclusive decision, he said that the need for any internal engine work, or even head/valve work, was remote, and the issue was most likely a sensor or a solenoid that was inoperative due to…we’ll let you know.

I called the independent shop where this saga started and urged a slow-down in this seeming rush to judgement. The service writer – who I’ve worked with for nearly 20 years – started at square one and found a cracked insulator on one spark plug. After a borescope inspection of the no-compression cylinder and replacement of all 4 plugs, then resetting various codes, we’re back in business. A pre-emptive oil change was also performed just to be sure that fuel contamination would not be an issue. 7,000 plus RPM and lots ‘o boost make that very prudent step one I could endorse without much deliberation.

The verdict is in: the car runs like new, starts and idles fine, and runs to the redline – and full boost – eagerly. A win after much hand-wringing.

The big lesson is, a relationship with the shop helps, taking charge helps, getting the facts (i.e. a full and factual diagnosis) before any repair is started really helps.

Sajeev concludes:

Son, I wish every automotive malady (both here and in my own garage) solved itself so effortlessly. Perhaps I should add something

You should ask that shop where the “180-180-180-20 compression” test result came from. Because that’s a seriously misguided diagnosis if new plugs fixed a (seemingly obvious?) misfire. Since you have a long history with them (or just the service writer?) they should be made aware they put you through a fair bit of stress for no good reason. And I mean no good reason at all: because I’m having a hard time finding a correlation between low compression readings being resolved by new spark plugs.

Perhaps their compression tester bit the dust after testing the last cylinder?

So to you, Best and Brightest: what’s up with that initial compression test?

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Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry…but be realistic, and use your make/model specific forums instead of TTAC for more timely advice.


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  • R Henry R Henry on May 26, 2019

    500 owner was a victim of outright fraud.

    • HotPotato HotPotato on May 28, 2019

      Smells like it, especially since the service writer had to sneak around the shop owner to do the right thing.

  • Don1967 Don1967 on May 28, 2019

    Confirmation bias. Your hunch says bad compression in one cylinder, causing you to accept a freakishly low reading instead of verifying your work.

  • Lorenzo Yes, more sedans, but NOT "four-door coupes" with low, sloping rooflines. There's a market: The Malibu sold only 39,376 in 2021, but 115,467 in 2022, and130,342 last year. Surely GM can make money at that volume, even though it's the 4-D-C design. Auto executives need to pay less attention to stock price and more to the customers.
  • 1995 SC The sad thing is GM tends to kill cars when they get them right, so this was probably a pretty good car
  • Mason Had this identical car as a 17 year old in the late 90's. What a ball of fun, one of many I wish I still had.
  • FinnEss At my age, sedans are difficult to get into without much neck and hip adjustment.I apologize sincerely but that is just the way it is. A truck is my ride of choice.Pronto
  • Ajla The market for sedans is weaker than it once was but I think some of you are way overstating the situation and I disagree that the sales numbers show sedans are some niche thing that full line manufacturers should ignore. There are still a sizeable amount of sales. This isn't sports car volume. So far this year the Camry and Civic are selling in the top 10, with the Corolla in 11 and the Accord, Sentra, and Model 3 in the top 20. And sedan volume is off it's nadir from a few years ago with many showing decent growth over the last two years, growth that is outpacing utilities. Cancelling all sedans now seems more of an error than back when Ford did it.
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