Genesis Motors Boss Pays No Attention to the Kia Stinger

Timothy Cain
by Timothy Cain
“It’s all about how you bring across to the customer that they don’t feel they are driving or seeing the same car.” — Manfred Fitzgerald, Genesis Motors Senior Vice President

The 2018 Kia Stinger and 2018 Genesis G70 are platform partners, two new sporty and luxurious four-doors from the Hyundai Kia Automotive Group.

The timing of their release is synchronized. They utilize the same engine portfolio. They’ll compete in a similar price bracket. But there are differences. For starters, the styling is markedly different, the kind of difference one expects to find when one car, the Kia, is a hatchback and the other is a sedan. The Kia Stinger works harder to get noticed; the Genesis G70 is more subdued.

But while Hyundai’s Genesis spinoff will need to further differentiate the G70 from a marketing standpoint in order to provide a true luxury brand glow, it’s already been made clear by Albert Biermann, the former BMW chassis guru who’s now head of vehicle testing for Hyundai and Kia, that the cars are very similar. In terms of driving experience, “It’s not so easy maybe as with the styling, but I think we can find good tuning and calibration that set them a little bit apart,” Biermann said earlier this year.

A little bit.

Yet in a conversation with Manfred Fitzgerald, the senior vice president at the Genesis brand, Wards Auto received a strikingly different answer. Asked how the Genesis G70 differs from the Kia Stinger, Fitzgerald says, “You tell me. I don’t look at the Stinger. We’re focusing on something totally different.”

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Again, the two cars are different, different enough that buyers who favor the Genesis G70 might not even like the look of the Kia Stinger. The Audi A7 has proven that consumers — even American consumers — are willing to overlook a liftback. (The A7 easily outsells the Mercedes-Benz CLS, for example.) But there’s no denying Kia’s market is limited both by a bodystyle Americans have often rejected and, at the Stinger’s lofty price point, the Kia badge. The K900 hasn’t exactly displayed a collective American willingness to spend big on Kias, what with its $50K MSRP and 40 sales per month.

Manfred Fitzgerald, U.S. Genesis boss Erwin Raphael, and the entire Genesis team would have you believe Genesis is different. Premium vehicles that proudly wear Made In Korea on their sleeves will be perceived as high-end luxury. Genesis won’t move any further downmarket than the G70 in order to protect the aspirations of the brand. Genesis is more interested in crafting the right kind of image than selling the right number of vehicles, they’ll say.

But then, in America, you’ll go to buy a Genesis G70 and discover that it’s being sold alongside the Hyundai Accent in the very same showroom, and you’ll wonder just how strong this luxury image really is. 350 of Hyundai’s 800 dealers sell Genesis’ sedans. Raphael wants that number to shrink; he also wants to speed up the process of building standalone Genesis stores.

Until then, however, what’s the big difference between the Genesis G70 and Kia Stinger? Wards doubled down and asked Manfred Fitzgerald a second time, citing the shared platform and engine lineup. “That’s a stretch,” Fitzgerald says. “Other cars share the same platform, and you wouldn’t be asking that question. As a corporation, it is normal and makes economic sense to share platforms and components.”

Indeed, vehicles as distinct as the Audi A5 and Bentley Bentayga ride on variations of the same platform. But Hyundai and Kia, to be fair, are not Audi and Bentley. “It’s all about how you bring across to the customer that they don’t feel they are driving or seeing the same car,” Fitzgerald says.

And he’s right. So now, in America, Genesis must bring across to the G70 customer that the Genesis buying experience is superior to the Kia Stinger buying experience.

[Images: Hyundai, Kia Motors]

Timothy Cain is a contributing analyst at The Truth About Cars and Autofocus.ca and the founder and former editor of GoodCarBadCar.net. Follow on Twitter @timcaincars and Instagram.

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  • Carzzi Carzzi on Sep 26, 2017

    The Kia's design language and frippery scream: it coulda' had a V8. It oughtta be law: four exhaust tips shall be permissible only with a minimum of eight cylinders.

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    • Sgtjmack Sgtjmack on Sep 28, 2017

      @bd2 If a manufacturer can get 300 -400 up out of a 6 cyl., then there isn't any need for an 8 cyl.. Especially if the 6 can handle better and get better mpg than the 8.

  • Sgtjmack Sgtjmack on Sep 27, 2017

    In the end, they are still Kia/Hyundai and have a lower than luxury brand reputation. Not to mention the lousy, and many times disrespectful factory representatives that are overly concerned with saving the company money than fixing the warrantable items on their cars.

  • Bd2 Eh, the Dollar has held up well against most other currencies and the IRA is actually investing in critical industries, unlike the $6 Trillion in pandemic relief/stimulus which was just a cash giveaway (also rife with fraud).What Matt doesn't mention is that the price of fuel (particularly diesel) is higher relative to the price of oil due to US oil producers exporting records amount of oil and refiners exporting records amount of fuel. US refiners switched more and more production to diesel fuel, which lowers the supply of gas here (inflating prices). But shouldn't that mean low prices for diesel?Nope, as refiners are just exporting the diesel overseas, including to Mexico.
  • Jor65756038 As owner of an Opel Ampera/Chevrolet Volt and a 1979 Chevy Malibu, I will certainly not buy trash like the Bolt or any SUV or crossover. If GM doesn´t offer a sedan, then I will buy german, sweedish, italian, asian, Tesla or whoever offers me a sedan. Not everybody like SUV´s or crossovers or is willing to buy one no matter what.
  • Bd2 While Hyundai has enough models that offer a hybrid variant, problem has been inadequate supply, so this should help address that.In particular, US production of PHEVs will make them eligible for the tax credit.
  • Zipper69 "At least Lincoln finally learned to do a better job of not appearing to have raided the Ford parts bin"But they differentiate by being bland and unadventurous and lacking a clear brand image.
  • Zipper69 "The worry is that vehicles could collect and share Americans' data with the Chinese government"Presumably, via your cellphone connection? Does the average Joe in the gig economy really have "data" that will change the balance of power?
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