Piston Slap: LS4-FTW, or Much Ado "Abboud" Nothing?

Maybe at one time JA was relevant but no more I imagine.

These days, Men's Warehouse sells a, Made in the USA!, Joseph Abboud suit for under $500. I'd bet you can get one under $400, on sale. For someone that is either just building a suit wardrobe or just wears a suit a few times a year, they could do much worse. The could probably do better, but definitely much, much worse.

@bball40dtw It's a perfectly good suit, but not something I'd think granted any prestige to a car. I guess it's perfectly applied, because the opposite, the Joseph Abboud Buick Regal-edition suit, would be about the same thing.

I think it was a poor choice to choose that designer/name for a Buick. It sounds foreign, and fairly Middle Eastern (correct or not, no idea) at a time after 9/11. Old peeps ain't having it.

@bball40dtw Pfft Brooks Brothers at minimum for the noobs or I laugh at them. http://www.esquire.com/style/a4452/500-dollar-suit-0508/ or if they want to step up to semi serious: http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Fitzgerald-Fit-Two-Button-1818-Suit/212K,default,pd.html Although I demand more of myself...

@28-Cars-Later Joseph Abboud is the creative director at Men's Warehouse now. They are pumping money into his brand. They bought it for cheap and made him their Chief Creative Officer or something.

@28-Cars-Later I wear suits to weddings, funerals, and job interviews. That's it. I wear a BB dress shirt every day, but no need for an expensive suit. Although I'd buy a $500 BB suit if I needed a new one.

@28-Cars-Later I don't demand that much from most people. The US made Abboud suits are fine for guys that don't usually wear suits. They are made better than most things as Men's Warehouse and also made in the US. I was at a wedding a couple weeks ago. If I could get every guy that bought a $200 suit to up it to that Abboud suit, the world would be a better place. I don't wear suits as much anymore, so I donated everything I had that wasn't a made in the US Mart Marx/Hickey Freeman/Brooks or Zegna (on a 28CL recommendation).

@Corey Lewis He is Lebanese American.

@S2k Chris I love the BB oxford. It's like the swiss army knife of men's clothing.

@S2k Chris I wore a dress shirt every day for twelve years in school, not doing it again ever without a suit coat. I'm wearing a green fleece with a t-shirt and Nautica slacks I bought at Macys last year. I just don't care about fashion most of the time, but I feel when you get dressed up X times a year you need to go to the nines or otherwise what's the point.

@S2k Chris "I love the BB oxford. It’s like the swiss army knife of men’s clothing." So do I, but I swear they make it hard to determine the fitment lately. I ordered three new ones on Columbus Day, some came with 7 buttons on the front, some 8, and I swear the arms are more snug than the same ones I have in my closet of the same size and line (always Traditional Fit). I have a very long torso so I'm sensitive to the length of the shirt and I'm having trouble keeping these new ones tucked in which was the main advantage to the BB shirts in the past.

@bball40dtw I was a Training Manager at Men's Wearhouse about seven years ago. The best suits in the store used to be the Ralph Lauren/Calvin Klein branded suits made by Peerless in Canada. The retailed for $299---they were a super steal. They also had a nice entry level HSM suit branded as "Society" for around $500. In the New York and San Francisco stores, they had nice Jack Victor suits for about $699. Sadly, you can't find any of that in the stores anymore. For inexpensive suits, I recommend the Jack Victor suits on Sierra Trading Post. They're Canadian-made and often can be found for less than $300 on sale.

@S2k Chris I haven't ordered any since last year. If they've messed with the fit, I am not going to be a happy camper.

@bball40dtw Good Anakin, gooood. I'm also partial to Armani suits, but not that Mani crap. The thing with Armani is though its very flashy in the top two tiers whereas I feel Zegna is stealth wealth. @Bark I bought a Lauren in 2008 just after I lost my job for interviews, navy pinstripe. Since I got the current job I went back to snobbery while I respect Lauren but feel for your first real suit its Brooks Brothers even its if their entry level model. Be better dressed than your interviewer, I may not have been in 2008 but I live by the principal now.

@S2k Chris "get dressed up X times a year you need to go to the nines or otherwise what’s the point" For my special evening work occasions where we meet with other companies I have monthly or every other month, I wear a three-piece. People notice it seems, because at my conference in Phoenix a woman I had not met before came up to me and said "Oh, I expected you to be in a three-piece, I heard about that!" Felt nice.

@bball40dtw I forgot about Jack Victor. He has some really nice conservative two button suits. For $300, that's a great suit. Did Peerless make RL tuxes back then?

@S2k Chris "“Oh, I expected you to be in a three-piece, I heard about that!”" We had a guy who used to wear a bow tie every day, people talked about that, too. Not in a good way. When I need to get dressed up for work I just toss a sport coat on. We assume suit = job interview at another company.

@S2k Chris The bow tie guy! There is always one of those.

@S2k Chris The way she said it was complimentary, but I'd never go as far as a doofus bow tie at my age. These work things involve dinners at high end restaurants with people like insurance company CEOs, so I feel it's appropriate. I don't think I'd enjoy working somewhere that dressing up meant you were looking for other job ops.

@S2k Chris "I don’t think I’d enjoy working somewhere that dressing up meant you were looking for other job ops." We're 95% engineers (I'm their finance support) so here dressing up means matching shoes and belt. The executives just wear coats more than the rest of us in our dress shirt/dress pants uniforms.

@S2k Chris OHH, engineers. That makes much more sense now.

@Corey So classy. I was too fat between 2007 and 2013 to wear a vest but my graduation suit (BB) in 1999 had one. @s2k, Bbball My doctor is a bow tie guy, he's an interesting character and devoid of all humor.

@S2k Chris I got that comment once from a rep, ha. "Oh that's nice you can wear a vest, I have been too fat for a long time!" I buy everything the smallest size I can, then have it taken in, basically. 36R

@S2k Chris Corey- I used to be like you, but I am happy in my Brooks Brothers button down, Jack Donnelly khakis, and Allen Edmonds shoes. 36R?!?!?!?! I didn't know such a size existed. Am I just a giant at 44L/46L?

@S2k Chris "I used to be like you, but I am happy in my Brooks Brothers button down, Jack Donnelly khakis, and Allen Edmonds shoes." Wearing the exact same thing at the moment, but my brown pants are from RL. My AE shoes might be the best things I've ever bought.

@bball40dtw Jack Victor @ Mens Wearhouse on clearance for $149 down from $799: SELECT CHARCOAL CHECK MODERN FIT SUIT http://www.menswearhouse.com/mens-clothes/mens-suits/modern-fit-trim-suits/jack-victor-select-charcoal-check-modern-fit-suit-379E380E97?cm_mmc=TsaGoogle_CSE-_-comparison_shopping-_-google_pla-_-shopping_feed&medium=TSA&zmam=64003343&zmas=1&zmac=1&zmap=TMW379E36297

@bball40dtw Modern Fit, eh? The tux I have to wear for a wedding is "modern fit" or "slim fit" and it is terrible. It's like JJ Watt wearing a women's small sized t-shirt. Awful.

@S2k Chris AE shoes are great. I won't go back to cheaper shoes that I throw away on a yearly basis.

@bball40dtw Maybe on giants such as yourself but for us newly slim folks... (I'm kidding).

@bball40dtw Yeah. I know. I'm 6'5" and 235 lbs. I feel like Chris Farley's "fat guy in a little coat" when I try on a 46L slim fit suit. The pants are usually okay, but the shoulders and arms are not.

@bball40dtw I'm surprised there is a "slim fit" on a 46 or larger.

@bball40dtw "I’m surprised there is a “slim fit” on a 46 or larger." My sister in law once bought me a slim fit XXL polo shirt. WTF?

@bball40dtw Usually I wear a 44L, but I can't get a 44L slim fit jacket on. Some brands I buy a 46L and take them in. Sometimes companies market "athletic fit", which usually works better for me. Usually the drop from jacket size to pant size on a suit is 6". Athletic fit suits have at least an 8" drop in pant size from jacket size. Even then, I still need to take them in. I actually have some XXL slim fit polo shirts for some reason. I think they are just XLs with a different tag that retailed for more money. I bought them on clearance at Macy's for $15 a piece. Apparently everyone else was wondering why there was an XXL slim fit shirt.

@bball40dtw Hmmmmmm and I thought I had problems being between a 40 and a 41.

@bball40dtw Sometimes, when I feel bad about being 6'5" and stuck in a Delta torture chamber somewhere over the state of Ohio, I remember that one of my best friends is 7 feet tall, and tell myself to stop being a pu$$y.

@S2k Chris Yes you are a giant! I think 36 is as low as they go at normal stores.

@bball40dtw I had a friend who was 6'8 years back. I must admit I wish to be taller but don't envy the very tall or large. "Delta torture chamber" Lol. Their penchant for running old planes until they are near the point to oblivion makes me wonder if one of my clones isn't managing the company behind the scenes.

@S2k Chris My daughter will probably be over 6 feet tall and I will have to buy a gun.

@bball40dtw Delta runs an extremely good operation. Probably the best airline operation in the world. They had 83,000 mainline flights in September. Only 50 were cancelled. On time performance was over 90%. They may have old birds, but they maintain them extremely well and have excellent hubs. They also are very good at filling 100% of their aircraft without over booking.

@28-Cars-Later I have three dark BB suits and one Calvin Klein tan summer suit bought from Men's Wearhouse for 50% off (as part of a promotion when I bought a tux). The BBs were all between $800 and $1200 and are indestructible, not remotely worn after years of use. I wear one of them maybe once every three weeks. But they're starting to get old in terms of cut, so I'll probably replace them soon even though they basically look brand new. There would be no return on investment for me to buy more expensive suits. Few people in the PNW notice, and I don't wear them that often anyway. There are a few people who wear suits every day to my office -- they like to think they are Very Serious but everyone snickers at them and calls them tools behind their backs.